(some thoughts after listening to Bill Johnson, Healing out of Intimacy)
That is, the things we do for Jesus need to emanate from our yielded life.
All of me filled with all of you, Jesus. We must learn to host more of the person of the Holy Spirit, give place to Him. Every step must be with the presence in mind, continually connected to what He is doing, what He has in mind. We can return to principles if we have to, but only to prime the pump for the return of our hosting the presence.
Yielded, sanctified, used by Him
Jesus provided for forgiveness of sin and provided for healing
The biggest reason for healings not to occur is that there are spiritual realities around an infirmity that we do not yet know how to dismantle. We must keep on practising
Learn to heal because Jesus told us to, often people only wake up to the need to heal when a family member becomes ill. This is a very hard place to learn to get a breakthrough. Rather practise healing because jesus said so http://www.youversion.com/bible/nkjv/matt/10/8
A breakthrough often comes through our being inconvenienced, taking a risk. The Kingdom comes through tribulation, that can be persecution or as simple as inconvenience.
Wednesday 31 March 2010
Monday 15 March 2010
Psalm. 118 1-18 Mathew Henry
1-18 The account the psalmist here gives of his troubles is very applicable to Christ: many hated him without a cause; nay, the Lord himself chastened him sorely, bruised him, and put him to grief, that by his stripes we might be healed. God is sometimes the strength of his people, when he is not their song; they have spiritual supports, though they want spiritual delights. Whether the believer traces back his comfort to the everlasting goodness and mercy of God, or whether he looks forward to the blessing secured to him, he will find abundant cause for joy and praise. Every answer to our prayers is an evidence that the Lord is on our side; and then we need not fear what man can do unto us; we should conscientiously do our duty to all, and trust in him alone to accept and bless us. Let us seek to live to declare the works of God, and to encourage others to serve him and trust in him. Such were the triumphs of the Son of David, in the assurance that the good pleasure of the Lord should prosper in his hand.
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Friday 12 March 2010
Our words causing Life and Spirit ?
Taken from my comment on Exodus 15:26 on youversion.com http://www.youversion.com/bible/nkjv/exod/15/26 "and said, “If you diligently heed the voice of the Lord your God and do what is right in His sight, give ear to His commandments and keep all His statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you which I have brought on the Egyptians. For I am the Lord who heals you.”
An earlier comment on this verse was, 'Is there such a thing as a permissive vs. causative verb sense as championed by a lot of WoF teachers?' (WoF = Word of Faith)
I took causative to mean, can words spoken by the spirit and/or from the bible cause healing, salvation, blessing, etc? Although there is another theological context below . .
I feel myself defending the Word of Faith movement though I am not in that 'stream', I am in a C of E, evangelical, occasionally carefully charismatic, church!. God has many streams coming into His river and I guess all of them have their cul de sacs, even stinky backwaters! However, all of them have their wonderfully fresh, revelatory truth water and what I love most is people who seek to learn and live in as many of these streams as possible! And it's from here that we can move on, stand on the shoulders of past giants from these streams . .
I think most of us have experienced reading the scripture when suddenly they seem alive? Bill Johnson has described this in his book 'Release the Power of Jesus' about Revelation 19:10 http://read.ly/Rev19.10.NKJV ". . For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." which inspired him to write a book about the power of testimony. Anyway he described how he read it and it seemed as if his spirit first understood and he had that 'wow' feeling and new it was really significant. At that very moment, however, he could not articulate to himself any understanding. He describes it like this at the beginning of chapter one,'One day I was sitting in my office, reading the Book of Revelation, when I felt something unmistakeable-the feeling I get when the words seem to jump off the page and I know I am hearing a present word from the Lord. I thought, 'Wow! That is so powerful! I have no idea what it means, but it's powerful!' (As usual, my spirit was getting it much faster than my mind)'
http://read.ly/John6.63.NKJV Here Jesus says that 'The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.' later http://read.ly/John6.68.NKJV Peter says 'Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life' So these aren't just plain old words that we can only read in some emotionally or spiritually disconnected way, though they can be and we do sometimes read like that, ie just with our mind. And of course this is one excellent way of learning/being/doing, but only one way. A Smith Wigglesworth favourite was, 'So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.' http://read.ly/Rom10.17.NKJV
If we are meant to model Jesus, then, can we too can speak words that are 'life' and 'spirit' to people ?
ps Here is an explanantion of permissive vs causative by looking at orginal Hebrew Text taken from http://tinyurl.com/yb9ww8m (if you want to look into this further)
""In The King James Version, Exodus 15:26 says, "I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians." The Hebrew text says, "I will not allow any of the diseases to come upon you that I allowed to come upon Egypt."
You see, the diseases were already there because of the curse. God allowed them to overtake Egypt because the Egyptians didn't have a covenant with Him. God did not cause the sickness and disease; He simply allowed what was already there to take place. The King James version distorts the true meaning of these verses.
God gets no glory from our sickness or disease (except our being healed!). He takes no pleasure in harming us, and He never will.
Jerry Savelle Ministries International
All rights reserved. Used by permission.""
An earlier comment on this verse was, 'Is there such a thing as a permissive vs. causative verb sense as championed by a lot of WoF teachers?' (WoF = Word of Faith)
I took causative to mean, can words spoken by the spirit and/or from the bible cause healing, salvation, blessing, etc? Although there is another theological context below . .
I feel myself defending the Word of Faith movement though I am not in that 'stream', I am in a C of E, evangelical, occasionally carefully charismatic, church!. God has many streams coming into His river and I guess all of them have their cul de sacs, even stinky backwaters! However, all of them have their wonderfully fresh, revelatory truth water and what I love most is people who seek to learn and live in as many of these streams as possible! And it's from here that we can move on, stand on the shoulders of past giants from these streams . .
I think most of us have experienced reading the scripture when suddenly they seem alive? Bill Johnson has described this in his book 'Release the Power of Jesus' about Revelation 19:10 http://read.ly/Rev19.10.NKJV ". . For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." which inspired him to write a book about the power of testimony. Anyway he described how he read it and it seemed as if his spirit first understood and he had that 'wow' feeling and new it was really significant. At that very moment, however, he could not articulate to himself any understanding. He describes it like this at the beginning of chapter one,'One day I was sitting in my office, reading the Book of Revelation, when I felt something unmistakeable-the feeling I get when the words seem to jump off the page and I know I am hearing a present word from the Lord. I thought, 'Wow! That is so powerful! I have no idea what it means, but it's powerful!' (As usual, my spirit was getting it much faster than my mind)'
http://read.ly/John6.63.NKJV Here Jesus says that 'The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.' later http://read.ly/John6.68.NKJV Peter says 'Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life' So these aren't just plain old words that we can only read in some emotionally or spiritually disconnected way, though they can be and we do sometimes read like that, ie just with our mind. And of course this is one excellent way of learning/being/doing, but only one way. A Smith Wigglesworth favourite was, 'So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.' http://read.ly/Rom10.17.NKJV
If we are meant to model Jesus, then, can we too can speak words that are 'life' and 'spirit' to people ?
ps Here is an explanantion of permissive vs causative by looking at orginal Hebrew Text taken from http://tinyurl.com/yb9ww8m (if you want to look into this further)
""In The King James Version, Exodus 15:26 says, "I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians." The Hebrew text says, "I will not allow any of the diseases to come upon you that I allowed to come upon Egypt."
You see, the diseases were already there because of the curse. God allowed them to overtake Egypt because the Egyptians didn't have a covenant with Him. God did not cause the sickness and disease; He simply allowed what was already there to take place. The King James version distorts the true meaning of these verses.
God gets no glory from our sickness or disease (except our being healed!). He takes no pleasure in harming us, and He never will.
Jerry Savelle Ministries International
All rights reserved. Used by permission.""
Wednesday 3 March 2010
Release the Power of Jesus
"We came from joy, we were made for joy. Any plan for life that does not involve being perpetually joyful is in contradiction to God's design for us" Bill Johnson, Release the Power of Jesus http://tinyurl.com/yjoa3fl
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